Re: Field Day Location - Rittman American Legion Hall
Somehow your message was just to me. You must select "reply all". Anyway the GOTA station must use a separate callsign than the rest of the radios. I'm not sure what call it would use. I was just looking through the rules. On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 2:51 PM Lane Yerian <kd8jjf@gmail.com> wrote:
All,
We should also look at having a GOTA (Get On The Air) station.
GOTA station, per rules gets five points per contact, regardless of mode.
Lane KD8JJF
On 2/22/2024 11:07 AM, Scott Talbot wrote:
I volunteer my Yeasu FTdx10 for the 10/15/160m station.
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 9:16 AM Jason McCormick via Field Day Tech < fd-tech@w8wky.org> wrote:
See the attached for some proposed layouts I've been working on. ------------------------------ *From:* Lane Yerian via Field Day Tech <fd-tech@w8wky.org> *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2024 7:49 AM *To:* Jeff Royer via Field Day Tech <fd-tech@w8wky.org> *Cc:* Lane Yerian <kd8jjf@gmail.com> *Subject:* [Field Day Tech] Re: Field Day Location - Rittman American Legion Hall
All,
I do have a good supply of aluminum extrusion (tubing & angle) that could be put to work.
Also our table setup could be changed (maybe a long line so we are not facing each other).
Lane KD8JJF On 2/17/2024 1:29 PM, Jeff Royer via Field Day Tech wrote:
All,
If we can solve the sound issue with the American Legion Hall, it sounds like a win, especially with the new area we have for antennas.
I was watching some DIY sound booth ideas and noticed some of them making them from PVC pipe and connectors just quicky pressed together, hanging moving blankets on them they put some grommets on, and then zip tied to the frame. You can get a 12 pack of blankets from a place like AliXpress for next to nothing comparatively, although rental may still be cheaper.
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Again, just throwing out info for discussion.
Jeff
*From:* Jason McCormick via Field Day Tech <fd-tech@w8wky.org> <fd-tech@w8wky.org> *Sent:* Saturday, February 17, 2024 11:33 AM *To:* fd-tech@w8wky.org *Cc:* Jason McCormick <jason@mfamily.org> <jason@mfamily.org> *Subject:* [Field Day Tech] Field Day Location - Rittman American Legion Hall
All,
Just to continue the good discussion we've been having, here's the thoughts on returning to the American Legion in Rittman. The first interesting thing is that I looked up is the property maps in Wayne Co for the site. The field behind the hall is in in fact owned by the Legion - we've always been under the impression that it was owned by the city and part of Fritz Park. I've attached a map of the approximate area owned by them.
The biggest two issues with the Legion hall are the noise level inside and sometimes we've had HF interference on 20m at that location. One possibility is to use the hall itself as "home base" but actually do operating outside. There are several options for that including locating the operators on the gravel behind the hall with longer feedlines - which doesn't really harm HF ops. Or locate them dispersed out throughout the field. Obviously having them together helps with the power situation.
Alternatively we could get serious about noise dampening inside the hall. We could construct A frame around the operating stations and rent a bunch of moving blankets to hang from it as sound deadening. We'd also likely need to put a fan in each "booth". Downside of the framing is just like a tent, we'd need to store it somewhere. This would also require some longer feedlines out into the field.
From the back door if the hall out into the middle of the field, it's roughly 185ft. So we'd be looking at 225-250 foot coax runs. We could optimize the field layout and keep 10/15 close to the building on shorter runs and put 20/40/80/160 far out in the field. LMR400 is 0.8dB loss per 100ft at 30MHz. LMR600 is 0.4dB / 100 at 30.
Pros:
- Familiar site
- Full kitchen
- indoor sleeping/resting
- Bathrooms
- Water / electricity
Cons:
- Severe room noise issues must be addressed
- Potential for HF interference (field may solve though)
Jason
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We can use WW8TF for the GOTA station. No problems there. ________________________________ From: Scott Talbot via Field Day Tech <fd-tech@w8wky.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 11:15 PM To: fd-tech@w8wky.org <fd-tech@w8wky.org> Cc: Scott Talbot <talbizle@gmail.com> Subject: [Field Day Tech] Re: Field Day Location - Rittman American Legion Hall Somehow your message was just to me. You must select "reply all". Anyway the GOTA station must use a separate callsign than the rest of the radios. I'm not sure what call it would use. I was just looking through the rules. On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 2:51 PM Lane Yerian <kd8jjf@gmail.com<mailto:kd8jjf@gmail.com>> wrote: All, We should also look at having a GOTA (Get On The Air) station. GOTA station, per rules gets five points per contact, regardless of mode. Lane KD8JJF On 2/22/2024 11:07 AM, Scott Talbot wrote: I volunteer my Yeasu FTdx10 for the 10/15/160m station. On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 9:16 AM Jason McCormick via Field Day Tech <fd-tech@w8wky.org<mailto:fd-tech@w8wky.org>> wrote: See the attached for some proposed layouts I've been working on. ________________________________ From: Lane Yerian via Field Day Tech <fd-tech@w8wky.org<mailto:fd-tech@w8wky.org>> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 7:49 AM To: Jeff Royer via Field Day Tech <fd-tech@w8wky.org<mailto:fd-tech@w8wky.org>> Cc: Lane Yerian <kd8jjf@gmail.com<mailto:kd8jjf@gmail.com>> Subject: [Field Day Tech] Re: Field Day Location - Rittman American Legion Hall All, I do have a good supply of aluminum extrusion (tubing & angle) that could be put to work. Also our table setup could be changed (maybe a long line so we are not facing each other). Lane KD8JJF On 2/17/2024 1:29 PM, Jeff Royer via Field Day Tech wrote: All, If we can solve the sound issue with the American Legion Hall, it sounds like a win, especially with the new area we have for antennas. I was watching some DIY sound booth ideas and noticed some of them making them from PVC pipe and connectors just quicky pressed together, hanging moving blankets on them they put some grommets on, and then zip tied to the frame. You can get a 12 pack of blankets from a place like AliXpress for next to nothing comparatively, although rental may still be cheaper. VEVOR 35/65 lbs Moving Blankets 12 Packs 80" x 72" Packing Blanket Heavy Duty Mover Pads for Protecting Furniture Appliances - AliExpress<https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806352868746.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.2bb83bfebohiCR&algo_pvid=08146e6e-e672-421f-8857-2ace1d828865&algo_exp_id=08146e6e-e672-421f-8857-2ace1d828865-0&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21131.65%2178.99%21%21%21131.65%2178.99%21%402101fb1717081938294565041e32b9%2112000037581441329%21sea%21US%210%21AB&curPageLogUid=ZwGuc05YUEtb&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A> Again, just throwing out info for discussion. Jeff From: Jason McCormick via Field Day Tech <fd-tech@w8wky.org><mailto:fd-tech@w8wky.org> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2024 11:33 AM To: fd-tech@w8wky.org<mailto:fd-tech@w8wky.org> Cc: Jason McCormick <jason@mfamily.org><mailto:jason@mfamily.org> Subject: [Field Day Tech] Field Day Location - Rittman American Legion Hall All, Just to continue the good discussion we've been having, here's the thoughts on returning to the American Legion in Rittman. The first interesting thing is that I looked up is the property maps in Wayne Co for the site. The field behind the hall is in in fact owned by the Legion - we've always been under the impression that it was owned by the city and part of Fritz Park. I've attached a map of the approximate area owned by them. The biggest two issues with the Legion hall are the noise level inside and sometimes we've had HF interference on 20m at that location. One possibility is to use the hall itself as "home base" but actually do operating outside. There are several options for that including locating the operators on the gravel behind the hall with longer feedlines - which doesn't really harm HF ops. Or locate them dispersed out throughout the field. Obviously having them together helps with the power situation. Alternatively we could get serious about noise dampening inside the hall. We could construct A frame around the operating stations and rent a bunch of moving blankets to hang from it as sound deadening. We'd also likely need to put a fan in each "booth". Downside of the framing is just like a tent, we'd need to store it somewhere. This would also require some longer feedlines out into the field.
From the back door if the hall out into the middle of the field, it's roughly 185ft. So we'd be looking at 225-250 foot coax runs. We could optimize the field layout and keep 10/15 close to the building on shorter runs and put 20/40/80/160 far out in the field. LMR400 is 0.8dB loss per 100ft at 30MHz. LMR600 is 0.4dB / 100 at 30.
Pros: * Familiar site * Full kitchen * indoor sleeping/resting * Bathrooms * Water / electricity Cons: * Severe room noise issues must be addressed * Potential for HF interference (field may solve though) Jason [X] _______________________________________________ Field Day Tech mailing list -- fd-tech@w8wky.org<mailto:fd-tech@w8wky.org> To unsubscribe send an email to fd-tech-leave@w8wky.org<mailto:fd-tech-leave@w8wky.org> _______________________________________________ Field Day Tech mailing list -- fd-tech@w8wky.org<mailto:fd-tech@w8wky.org> To unsubscribe send an email to fd-tech-leave@w8wky.org<mailto:fd-tech-leave@w8wky.org>
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